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abaddyn posted:first off, i have to mention that i love the style of this song: like a YZ version hybrid of the songs The Downward Spiral and Hurt. last night it occurred to me that the core meaning...

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minuteforce posted:I said "In This Twilight" as being about the former, but "Zero-Sum" seems more like the latter, a more apocalyptic feel but ... what apocalypse? The Great Destroyer.

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ARWorks posted:Obveously Trent was influenced by the horrors of the world, or some of his political views, but from this he created something of his own. The fact that I've even heard people connect...

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I thought it was apocalyptic too, the zeros and ones meant everything was meaningless and our world was destroyed and there was nothing? How could we believe we mattered when in the end our world is...

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The world ends. The end.

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That's a great observation, abaddyn! I take it more to mean that humans, all of us, are base. Like we think and like to believe we are seperate from animals and their simple instincts, or different...

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Shame on us Doomed from the start May god have mercy on our dirty little hearts Love those lyrics. I think the "all we ever were, just zeroes and ones" is indeed binary, linking us to just statistics....

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ARWorks posted: The fact that Bush shows up on stage durring the LITS tour is wrong!!!! Damn! If only someone had told Trent that! I'm certain he had no idea it was "wrong." He wrote the damn song. He...

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The Zeros and Ones are referring to binary code, but I don't think you need to tear the metaphor apart that much. He may mean that the code the human race makes up is a virus (as in computer virus)...

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So there is something I feel compelled to share. Here it goes. I was friends with someone all throughout high school. He enlisted in the military and served in Iraq. We dated for almost a year while...

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Nice theories from everybody. The thing I love about Year Zero is that it works on so many levels (not just the music + ARG) - the content is open for interpretation and everything seems to have dual...

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To me, it comes across as the final message of the Solutions Backwards Initiative, being sent before the very last moments of the 'rapture'/coming of the presence (Coming back together as one,...

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Zero is the same as infinity, mostly. And, there's our binary off and on meaning. Every human on the planet are collectively a program that is operating. As in (without getting too metaphysical) We...

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This is one of my favorite songs, and I don't feel a meaning for it should be expressed. The lyrics are very direct and simplistic and captivating. A song this good doesn't deserve to be analyzed. And...

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I've always interpreted Zero Sum as the ultimate degradation of human concern in society. How we operate in 0's and 1's, on or off in binary code, as stated above. The song shows that with technology...

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well, in my opinion, i suppose it Is ...biblical....mathematic...prophetic...apocalypic.... all 4 at ONCE.

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"the fOUr oF uS aRe Dying"

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"just zeroes and ones" refers to duality...

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looking at the front page, and the song is kinda like giving in to defeat... it is an excuse to lay down the resistance to what ever controls

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i agree, i think the line zeros and ones definitely makes a reference to the digital age but can be looked at in a more meaningful sense as you guys have been saying. one of you hit the nail on the...

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